1. Features - Installation
Philips
DVDR824P DVD+RW -
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The DVD recording market welcomes the new Philips DVDR824P DVD+RW recorder. After Plextor PX-708A, Philips increases the burning speed at 8x for DVD+R media. The drive supports 4x writing speed for DVD+RW and it is also a CD-R/RW recorder at 24x and 10x respectively. On the reading part the new Philips drive reads DVD±R/RW disc at 8x, DVD-ROM at 12x and CD-R/RW at 40x.
- Features
Seamless
Link was initially introduced by Acer CM, currently BenQ. The technology allows
a CD-RW/DVD+RW drive to automatically monitor the recording status to prevent
buffer under run from occurring.
Seamless Link allows the CD-RW drive to store the RecEnd address, the point
in the data to which the recording mechanism has progressed, and pause the
recording before a buffer under run occurs. When the buffer is again full,
a Seamless Link-enabled drive locates the RecEnd address and resumes the recording
process. The gap between the stop and restart point is closed, while managing
the recording process precisely and transparently-eliminating under run errors
while maintaining recording accuracy.
Dynamic Calibration
To
ensure optimal writing quality over the entire disc at higher writing speeds,
Philips has introduced the Walking OPC algorithm. WOPC directly measures and
optimizes the actual writing quality during the writing process.
At certain intervals, the writing process will be briefly interrupted, the
writing quality directly evaluated and the
writing power adjusted accordingly, if required. The Philips
DVD+R/RW writers use a more dynamic implementation based on position on the
disc and temperature inside the drive. The graph below shows the writing graph
of the Philips 8x DVD+R/RW on a Philips
8x DVD+R disc.
In addition, Philips Dynamic Calibration includes a tilt calibration feature. The
best reading and writing quality can be obtained if the angle between the
disc and the laser beam is 90
degrees. However, if the disc is warped, the laser beam will no longer be correctly
positioned which will cause a distortion of the laser spot which will result
in decreasing writing quality if it is not corrected.
The tilt calibration will reposition the Optical Pickup Unit (OPU) to maintain
a 90-degree angle between the laser beam and the disc surface at all times
ensuring an optimal spot shape, even on warped discs. The frequency of the
tilt calibration depends only on the position on the disc according to a non-linear
function. Near the end of the disc the risk for warping is higher so the frequency
of the tilt calibration will increase accordingly. As with WOPC, the writing
process will be briefly interrupted, the tilt measured and the OPU repositioned
if required.
Walking OPC and Tilt Calibration together form the Dynamic Calibration. Although
they act independently from each other some effort is taken to synchronize
the Tilt Calibrations with the disc position dependent component of Walking
OPC.
- Specifications
Interface |
ATA/ATAPI (PIO mode 0/1/2/3/4
DMA mode 0/1/2
UDMA mode 0/1/2) |
Writing Speed |
DVD+R: 8x max (10800KBps)
ZCLV, DVD+RW: 4x max (5400KBps) CLV, CD-R: 24x
max (3600KBps) P-CAV, CD-RW: 10x max (1500KBps) CLV
|
Read Speed |
DVD+R/-R/+RW/-RW: 8x
CAV
|
DVD-ROM: 12x (16200KBps)
CAV, CD-R/RW: 40x (6000KBps) CAV |
Random Seek |
DVD: 160msec, CD: 120msec |
Buffer Size |
8MB |
Supported Disc Formats |
DVD: DVD single layer
/ Dual layer,
DVD+R (Ver.1.0),
DVD+RW (Ver.1.1),
DVD-R (Read Only),
DVD-RW (Read Only) CD: CD-DA,
CD-ROM XA (m1, m2f1/m2f2),
CD-R CD-RW,
Bootable CD,
Photo CD (single & multi-session),
Video CD,
Super Video CD,
CD-Extra,
Mixed-mode CD,
CD-Text,
CD-Graphics |
Supported Writing Types |
Disc-at-once,
Track-at-once.
Multi-session,
Packet writing,
Raw writing,
Direct Over write,
Test Write
|
OS Compatibility |
Windows 98/ ME / 2000/ XP |
Of course, the most awaited feature of the new Philips DVDR214P
is the supported writing speeds. The new drive offers 8x DVD+R (6-8x Z-CLV)
recording, and DVD+RW at 4x CLV.
The maximum CD writing speed for CD-R is 24x P-CAV and 10x CLV, when using
High Speed CD-RW media. Reading of CD-ROM/-R/RW can be done at 40x CAV maximum.
The drive is slower than other compatible DVD recorders in this area, but these
are mostly limitation of the NEXPERIA chipset of the drive.
Single layer DVD-ROM media can be read at 12x CAV, while DVD±R/RW discs
can be read at 8x CAV.
Philips chose an 8MB buffer to obtain safe recordings at 8x. The drive also
supports RAW DAO 96 writing (CD). According
to Philips, Mount Rainier is not included in the drive's specifications mainly
because the implementation would delay the drive's appearance in the market.
Philips DVDR824P uses the RPC II region control, allowing a user to change
the drive's region at most 5 times. For our tests, we set the region
code to 2 (Europe).
- The drive
Not a great experience is required to identify the drive by looking at
its front panel. The white front bezel with the golden-iridic horizontal line
refers to the previous DVD Philips writers. The Philips logo is stamped on
the middle of the tray, and the "DVD+RW824 series" logo
is on the left.
According to the disc loaded, a LED will light up to blue or red for CD and
DVD discs.
On the rear panel you can see the analogue and digital audio outputs (SPDIF),
the IDE connector
and the power input.
Removing the screws and opening the drive's cover voids the drive's warranty.
For reference reasons, we post the following pictures. Philips DVDR824P is
built upon the Nexperia DVD+RW reference design. You can click on the mainboard
picture for a higher resolution image:
The Nexperia PNX7850 DVD+RW processor delivers maximum writing
at 4x
DVD+R/+RW, 32x CD-R and 12x CD-RW; reading at 16x DVD
and 40x CD. However, combined with a high performance OPU (Optical Pickup Unit),
the Philips
DVD+RW chipset can support the 8x DVD+R writing speed.
- Installation
Philips DVDR824P was connected to our test PC and was identified
as "PHILIPS DVDR824P" under
WinXP. All tests were done with firmware revision vP1.2.
In the following pages we include the test results of three other DVD burners,
the Ricoh MP5240 DVD+RW, the Optorite DD0203 and the Plextor PX-708A
dual DVD burners.
2. CD Reading Tests
Philips DVDR824P DVD+RW - Page 2
Data CD Reading Tests
- Pressed CD results (Click for
CDSpeed results)
Philips DVDR824P read the disc at 44.12x CAV. Although the speed is higher
than the drive's specifications (40x), the disc was read accurately at an average
speed of 33.17x. The rest drives were also fast, with Plextor PX-708A to take
the second place with 32.36x, followed by the Ricoh and Optorite drives.
On the seek times test Philips DVDR824P performed very well and needed 100msec
for the Random seek and 168msec for the Full
seek modes. The Plextor drive was the fastest among the rest with only 155msec
for the full stroke, while the Optorite drive gave similar results with Philips.
- CD-R Media results (Click for
CDSpeed results)
This time we used a copied disc of the previous pressed CD-ROM and ran the
transfer rate tests. The performance is not different and the Philips drive
gave the highest average reading speed again.
The seek times are also low for all the drives, as you can see in the below
graph.
- ReWritable Media (Click for
CDSpeed results)
The
Philips drive supports
the 40x CAV reading speed with rewritable media. For the reading test
we used 10x High Speed rewritable media by Ricoh.
The performance with CD-RW was not much different
than the one we had with CD-R media. The disc was read under the CAV mode and
the reported average reading speed was 33.01X.
3. CD Error Correction Tests
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DVDR824P DVD+RW -
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Error Correction Tests
In the following tests we check the drive's behavior when it comes to reading
scratched / defected audio discs. The test discs we use are the ABEX series
from ALMEDIO.
- ABEX TCD-721R
Errors total
|
Num: 115802595
|
Errors (Loudness) dB(A)
|
Num: 546383
|
Avg: -25.2 dB(A)
|
Max: -4.9 dB(A)
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Error Muting Samples
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Num: 22790
|
Avg: 3120.0 Samples
|
Max: 3584 Samples
|
Skips Samples
|
Num: 2
|
Avg: 698.0 Samples
|
Max:
698 Samples
|
Total Test Result
|
51.0 points (out of 100.0 maximum)
|
The drive did not manage to correct the severe errors of the ABEX TCD-721R
test disc. Both, the amount and the level of the reported errors are high, resulting
to a low quality score. On the other hand, the drive starts reporting errors
in the expected position and not earlier, meaning that the optics and error
correction circuits are tuned adequately. According to EAC author, such level might lead to audible problems in the output signal.
The amount of the muted samples is also very high. This means that the drive
will generally play your old audio discs pretty well, unless their physical
condition is not as bad as this of the Abex 721R disc. These are first indications
about the overall performance of the drive and the following additional tests
will help us come up with safer conclusions.
- ABEX TCD-726
Errors total
|
Num: 0
|
Errors (Loudness) dB(A)
|
Num:4
|
Avg:-94.0 dB(A)
|
Max: -87.6 dB(A)
|
Error Muting Samples
|
Num: 0
|
Avg: 0.0 Samples
|
Max: 0 Samples
|
Skips Samples
|
Num: 1
|
Avg: 185.0 Samples
|
Max: 185 Samples
|
Total Test Result
|
83.6 points (out of 100.0 maximum)
|
Abex TCD-726 is much easier for the drive to read. For this reason, Philips
DVDR824P corrected almost all errors and the overall quality score is very
high (83.6 points).
- CD-Check Audio Test Disc
The CD-Check Test Disc is a very useful tool for evaluating the Sound Reproduction
/ Error correction capabilities of a CD player. The disc offers a signal combination
with disc error patterns to rate the drive's abilities to read music and reproduce
it completely. Five tracks on the disc contain a sequence of progressively
difficult tests. These tracks are referred as Check Level-1 through Check Level-5.
The
files are reproduced (played) through a software multimedia player (i.e.
Windows Media Player). Each level is considered as passed, if the tone coming
out
from the speakers is smooth, continuous without interruptions, skipping or
looping. The higher the Check Level passed, the more reliable the sound reproduction
of the tested device.
Error Level
|
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
Philips DVDR824P
|
5/5
|
5/5
|
5/5
|
5/5
|
5/5
|
The drive passed all 5 Check Levels of the
test. The performance reveals very good sound
reproduction
and
error
correction.
The
fifth level
includes an error size of 1.500mm, and the drive managed to play the file
without audible clicks.
The results with the Abex TCD-721R (max scratch
size 3,00mm) and CD-Check test show that Philips DVDR824P is tuned
to correct errors coming from scratches
sized up to 1,500mm approximately.
- Summary
Test Disc
|
Reading Speed
|
Score
|
ABEX TCD-721R
|
Max
|
51.0
|
ABEX TCD-726
|
83.6
|
Average Score
|
67.3
|
Combining the two scores from the ABEX tests we estimate an average total
score of 67.3 points out of 100. This is not the highest score
we have ever experienced from a drive, but it does not fully give the image
of the drive's performance. Philips DVDR824P managed to read severely scratched
discs with a high accuracy, as long as the scratches did not exceed a critical
size.
4. DVD Reading Tests
Philips
DVDR824P DVD+RW -
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DVD reading tests
- Single Layer PTP DVD-ROM (Click
for CDSpeed results)
Philips DVDR824P supports 12x CAV reading speed with single layer DVD-ROM
media. The drive was even faster in our test and gave the highest average reading
speed (9.36x) among the rest drives. The Plextor drive follows closely with
9.09x, and Ricoh / Optorite drives are slower. Note that the Optorite DD0203
supports 8x CAV DVD-ROM reading.
The official specifications give the Philips drive an average Random seek time of
160msec for DVD. The drive was fast
in the random
and
1/3
reading
tests,
attaining
times
around
to 105 msec, while
it was slower in the full mode with 173 msec. The Plextor drive gave almost
the same results but was slightly slower in the full stroke.
- Dual Layer PTP DVD-ROM (Click for
CDSpeed results)
The two layers of a PTP DVD-ROM disc are read sequentially with the drive
starting reading from the inner part of the disc, which is the beginning of each layer,
towards the outer range, for each layer.
Philips DVDR824P limits the reading speed to 8x with dual layer DVD-ROM
discs. The reading speed in the beginning of
the disc was
3.16x and
the ending
speed
was
lower than 8x (7.6x).
The
drive used the CAV reading strategy, as you can see in the CDSpeed test link.
In the same task, both Ricoh and Plextor drives were faster
with a 6.8x average reading speed. The Optorite drive is the slowest reader
since
it supports
only 4.5x CAV reading.
In addition, the seek test gave the Philips drive the lowest seek times
among the rest drives:
- Dual Layer OTP DVD-ROM
The first layer of an OTP dual layer DVD-ROM is read exactly the same way
as the first layer of the PTP disc we tested previously. The difference here is the reading strategy
of the second layer of the disc. The beginning of the second layer is located
in the outer part of the disc, so the drive starts reading from the outer tracks
toward the inner part of the disc.
The transfer rate graph is smooth and each layer was read at 3.45x~8x
CAV.
- DVD Ripping Tests
We measured the DVD-Video ripping speed of Philips DVDR834P using the latest
version of the DVD Decrypter software. The DVD Video title is the "Matrix" pressed
DVD (single layer, 4.38GB).
Philips DVDR824P 12x CAV DVD Video reading/ripping. The drive ripped the
DVD movie files to the hard disk
at 8.441 KB/s (6.1x) average.
The Ricoh drive performed slightly better, while Optorite DD0203
is slower with 5,846 KB/sec.
Plextor PX-708A supports 2x DVD Video ripping by default, but pressing the
eject button for 3 seconds (no disc inserted) will enable DVD ripping at higher
speeds. In this case, the average ripping speed for the same
movie reached the 8,957KB/sec (6.5X).
- DVD Recordable / Rewritable reading Tests
The chart below shows the Nero CDSpeed results with the following media:
Philips DVDR824P supports 8x CAV reading for the DVD±R/RW formats.
The CDSpeed tests confirmed it and each disc was read flawlessly at 6.2x average.
Ricoh and Plextor drives gave similar results, and Optorite follows with 4x
average for all the discs.
5. DVD Error Correction Tests
Philips
DVDR824P DVD+RW -
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DVD Error Correction
Tests
In the following tests we examined the DVD reading capabilities of Philips
DVDR824P drive
with scratched / defected DVD media.
For the tests we used CDVD Benchmark and Nero CDSpeed . The reference test
media
come
from
ALMEDIO.
- Single Layer media
ABEX TDR-821
This is a single sided, single layer DVD-ROM with a 4.7GB capacity, and its
surface has an artificial scratch of dimensions varying from 0.4 to 3.0 mm.
The following transfer rate picture comes from the CDVD Benchmark v1.21 transfer
rate test.
Philips DVDR824P read the 821 test disc without reporting any read errors.
The yellow dots indicate that the drive gave back different reading speeds
for each reading retry, due to the scratched areas.. The disc was read accurately
at 12x CAV.
ABEX TDR-825
This is also a single sided, single layer DVD-ROM of a 4.7GB capacity. The
data structure of the disc is exactly the same as that of the TDR-821, with
the difference that there are no scratches on it but defected areas of dimensions
ranging from 0.5 to 1.1 mm. There are also fingerprints sized between 65 and
75 micrometers.
As in the previous test, no read errors occurred with this disc. The drive
read the disc under CAV mode but did not manage to reach maximum
reading
speed
of 12x.
The hardest areas on the specific disc seems to be the artificial fingerprints,
where the drive slowed down to finish the task at 11x CAV.
- Dual Layer media
ABEX TDR-841
This is a 8.5GB dual layer, single sided DVD-ROM disc with artificial scratches
of dimensions ranging from 0.4 to 3.0mm, in both layers.
The dual layer DVD-ROM disc was read just like the single layer effected
DVD-ROM (821 Abex test disc). Regardless the fact that the transfer rate graph
is not solid, the Philips drive managed to read each layer at 7x CAV and finished
the test
without posting any read errors.
ABEX TDR-845
The disc is a single sided, dual layer DVD-ROM disc of a capacity of 8.5GB.
The only difference between the TDR-845 and the TDR-841 is that the first includes
defected areas and fingerprints. The dimensions of the defected areas range
from 0.5 to 1.1 mm and the fingerprints are sized from 65 to 75 micro meters.
The defected
areas did not allow the drive to reach the maximum expected speed (8x), but
what really matters is the reading accuracy.
ABEX TDV-541
The
TDV-541 is a single sided, dual layer DVD-VIDEO disc, with a capacity of 8.5GB.The
disc is based upon the TDV-540 series which is designed for inspection
and adjustment of DVD-VIDEO players. The discs check the layer switch operation
from layer 0 to layer 1 and also include test pictures and test signals for
DVD sound files. The current TDV-541 checks also the error correcting capabilities
of the drive and includes scratches sized from 0.4 to 3.0 mm.
The 541 test disc was not a problem for the Philips drive. Besides the momentarily
slow down of the speed at the beginning of the first layer the disc was read
accurately at 7.61x CAV.
ABEX TDV-545
The
TDV-545 disc is based on the TDV-540 series. It is a single sided, dual layer
DVD-VIDEO disc with a capacity of 8.5GB. The TDV-545 includes artificial black
dots on the data surface, sized from 0.4 to 1.0 mm. It has also 65 - 75 micro
meters fingerprints.
Black dots and fingerprints on the disc surface did not create any reading
problems, and the drive finished the task successfully.
6. Protected Disc Tests
Philips
DVDR824P DVD+RW - Page 6
Protected Disc
Tests
- Reading Tests
To create the image of the various protected titles to the hard disk, we
used CloneCD v4.3.1.7 software and the appropriate settings, according to
the protection type of the inserted discs. Below are summarized the capabilities
of the Philips drive, according to CloneCD
software. Notice that the drive does not support writing of CD+G under RAW DAO:
The game titles we used for each protection scheme are illustrated in the
table below:
Game Title
|
Protection Scheme
|
PSX "NBA Jam Extreme"
|
Lybcrypt
|
Serious Sam The Second Encounter v1.07
|
SafeDisc v.2.60.052
|
VRally II
|
SecuROM v.2
|
PSX Pressed Media
Although this is not a top performance, the Philips drive finished the task
in 2:20min. Ricoh MP5240A was 5 seconds faster, while Plextor
drive gave the best performance with only 69 seconds.
SafeDisc v.2
Philips is very slow when skipping the "bad" sectors of the Safedisc v2
protected disc. The drive needed 19min to create the image to the hard disk.
Plextor PX-708A is the fastest drive in the test with 2251.08 sectors/sec,
followed by Ricoh MP5240A.
SecuROM v2
Philips DVDR824P supports reading of subchannel data information from data/audio
tracks, but is not compatible with CloneCD CD+G DAO writing. This means that
although the SecuROM v.2 image was created fast, it cannot be successfully recorded
to a CD-R with the same drive.
- Writing Tests
Philips supports the DAO-RAW writing mode.
For checking the drive's EFM correction status, we used 2 different game titles
with different SafeDisc 2 versions with the latest software patches installed.
After making the images of the various titles to the hard disk, we burned them
(maximum speed) with CloneCD v4.3.1.7. Two different discs were created for
each
title; one with the "Amplify Weak Sectors" feature enabled and one
more
with
the
function disabled.
In case of SecuROM v.2 title, CloneCD prompt us that the drive is not compatible
with writing on the whole 96 bytes of the Subchannel area. As a result, the
drive cannot create backups of this protection.
In the table below you can see whether the produced backups were working
(game installed / played normally), or not.
Drive |
Game Title |
SD2 Build |
Settings |
Amplify Weak Sectors On |
Amplify Weak
Sectors Off |
Philips
DVDR824P |
Max Payne |
v2.51.020 |
NO |
NO |
Serious Sam - The Second Encounter
v1.07
|
v.2.60.052 |
NO
|
NO
|
Regarding the SafeDisc v.2 protection, the backups were not working despite
the contribution of the CloneCD.
7. DAE Tests
Philips
DVDR824P DVD+RW- Page 7
DAE Tests
- Pressed and CDR AudioCD results
Philips DVDR824P uses the 40x CAV strategy for CD-DA. Below you
can see a CDSpeed transfer rate test with a pressed audio CD:
According to CDSpeed, the average reading speed with this disc was 32.50x,
and the reported seek times were adequate.
We ripped the contents of same audio disc to the hard disk with CDDAE
software. The drive gave an average ripping speed (burst mode) of 29.4x:
In the same task, the Plextor drive gave a 29x average speed, while the
Ricoh / Optorite drives are slower due to their 32x CAV reading strategy.
The same pressed audio disc was copied on a CD-R and was read again with
CDspeed. Philips DVDR824P gave the highest ripping speed again, finishing the
task at 29.8x average.
- Advanced DAE Quality
Philips DVDR824P got a score 100 (perfect) in the Nero CD Speed Advanced DAE
test. CDSpeed reports that the drive can only read Leadin area information,
Cd Text and Subchannel Data.
- Support of 90/99mins AudioCDs
The drive read the 76.5% of the 90min disc, which means that it ripped up
to 68min address of the disc.
The 99min disc was read approximately untill the 80min address of the total
disc contents.
- Reading/Ripping Protected AudioCDs
For the test procedure we used two audio discs with different
audio protections. The tasks we tested is both recognition and
ripping to the hard disk. The software we used is the Exact Audio Copy.
* Pressed Audio disc protected by Sony Key2Audio (Celine
Dion - New Day
Has Come)
* Pressed Audio disc protected by Cactus Data Shield 200 (Natalie
Imbruglia - White Lilies Island)
|
Key2Audio |
CDS200 |
EAC |
Philips DVDR824P |
OK |
Problematic |
Ricoh MP5240A |
Cannot recognize |
OK |
Plextor PX-708A |
OK |
OK |
Optorite DD0203 |
OK |
Recognizes disc contents but cannot
rip tracks |
Philips DVDR824P managed to rip both the Key2Audio and
the CDS200 audio protected discs. However, the ripped CDS200 files had problems
and their playback revealed many mutes and skip errors.
8. CD-R Recording Tests
Philips
DVDR824P DVD+RW- Page 8
CD Recording Tests
- CD-R Writing Tests
Philips DVDR824P
supports 8x, 12x, 16x and the maximum 24x P-CAV writing speeds. Below
you can see the CDSpeed writing simulation graph with Taiyo Yuden 48x CD-R
media.
The
writing speed in the beginning of the disc is 18.21x and increases until the
14:00:00 address of the disc approximately, where it reaches the maximum 24x.
According to CDSpeed, the average writing speed with a 80min disc is 23.53x.
The Philips dynamic calibration system is responsible for the small peaks
of the transfer rate graph. The feature calibrates the writing speed in real
time during writing to ensure quality burnings.
- Recording Times
For the burning tests we created a 80min data compilation through Nero Burning
Rom recorded the data on a 700MB disc. Philips DVDR824P finished the task in
4:05 minutes, when we selected the 24x writing speed. The
performance is adequate for the 24x recording speed. Note that the Plextor
drive is faster since it offers 40x CD-R writing.
Below you can see the best writing times of Philips DVDR824P at 8x, 16x,
and 24x. In each case, the Seamless Link feature was enabled:
- CD-RW Writing Tests
Philips
DVDR824P supports the 10x CLV maximum rewriting speed, with High
Speed rewritable media. The drive also writes at 4x CLV with NS CD-RW. Below
you can see the CDSpeed writing simulation test with blank 10x HS-RW media
by Ricoh.
We used Nero Burning Rom in order to burn a data disc with HS-RW
media by Ricoh. The data compilation we burned had a size of 651 MB and the
duration
of the recording process with Philips DVDR824P was 8:03 minutes
(10x). The
best
rewriting
times for all the drives are illustrated below.
- Packet Writing Tests
We used InCD and Mitsubishi Chemicals 10x HS-RW media for all packet writing
tests. The quick formatting of the media took 32sec. The formatted disc had
530mbs of free space. We copied a 403 MB file (403.147 KB) from a Hard Disk
(on the same PC as the writers) to the formatted RW media through the Windows
explorer (drag and drop).
|
Duration
|
Average speed
|
Read
|
3:53 min
|
11.53x
|
Write
|
6:56 min
|
6.46x
|
Philips drive gave an average writing speed of 6.46x and the writing process finished after 6:56min, which is a slow time due to the competition.
- Other features
Overburning
|
Up to 99:40min
|
CD text reading/writing
|
Yes
|
9. Writing Quality Tests - 3T Jitter Tests
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DVDR824P DVD+RW -
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Writing Quality Tests - 3T Jitter Tests
We used 80min 48X CD-R media by Taiyo Yuden and burned the same AudioCD project
at 8x, 16x, and 24x. In the following page you can
see the 3T
Pit & Land Jitter graphs.
- 3T Pit results
Generally the drive did not introduce high 3T pit jitter with the specific
media. The highest 3T pit jitter was reported from the discs recorded at 16x and 24x,
in the outer area. In these areas, the jitter reached
the 42 nsec and 46 nsec respectively, which is far above the Red Book limit
at 35msec. The 8x and 16x recorded discs gave very good results.
The average
3T Jitter values for all recording speeds are illustrated in the following
table.
- 3T Land results
The average 3T Land results are almost the same in comparison with the previous
measurements of the 3T Pit Jitter. For speeds below 16x we took quality results but for 16x and 24x we had again increased 3T Land jitter values once again in the outer area of the disc. The highest values was 40nsec for 16x and 43 for 24x.
- Summary
Recording Speed
|
Average 3T Pit Jitter (ns)
|
Average 3T Land Jitter (ns)
|
> 35ns
|
Max 3T jitter values (ns)
|
8X
|
29.66
|
31.98
|
Yes
|
32 Pit, 36 Land
|
12X
|
28.27
|
30.00
|
No
|
30 Pit, 31 Land
|
16X
|
35.66
|
35.24
|
Yes
|
42 Pit, 40 Land
|
24X
|
33.56
|
32.76
|
Yes
|
46 Pit, 43 Land
|
The average 3T Pit and Land jitter values are below the 35nsec standard for 8x and 12x speeds. The other two speeds of 16x and 24x gave high jitter in the outer addresses so the error rate will be possibly higher there.
10. Writing Quality Tests - C1 / C2 Error Measurements
Philips
DVDR824P DVD+RW-
Page 10
Writing Quality Tests - C1 / C2 Error Measurements
We measured the C1 / C2 error rate on the recorded discs we burned at the
various supported writing speeds. The software we used is the Nero CDSpeed CD Quality Test and Plextor Premium as a reader for retrieving the error
rate information. The charts below illustrate the Q-Check graphs for various
CD-R media.
- Taiyo Yuden 48x recorded at 8x
- Taiyo Yuden 48x recorded at 12x
- Taiyo Yuden 48x recorded at 16x
- Taiyo Yuden 48x recorded at 24x
- Emtec 48x recorded at 24x
- Memorex 52x recorded at 24x
Media
|
Recording speed
|
C1
|
C2
|
Quality Score
|
Avg
|
Max
|
Total
|
Avg / Sec
|
Max / Sec
|
Total
|
Taiyo Yuden 48X
|
8x
|
0.73
|
15
|
3503
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
98.1
|
12x
|
0.95
|
36
|
4530
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
94.8
|
16x
|
1.03
|
35
|
4949
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
94.7
|
24x
|
1.16
|
19
|
5527
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
96.5
|
SKC 48x
|
24x
|
1.47
|
163
|
7033
|
0.19
|
892
|
892
|
0.0
|
EMTEC 48x
|
24x
|
5.53
|
86
|
26528
|
0.0
|
5
|
5
|
73.1
|
Memorex 52x
|
24x
|
4.79
|
38
|
22978
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
0.0
|
90.0
|
Below you can see more information about the CD-R media we used in this
test.
Disc
|
ID Code
|
Capacity
|
Taiyo Yuden 48X |
TaiyoYuden 97m24s01f |
79:59:72 |
SKC 48X |
97m26s26f |
79:59:73 |
EMTEC 48X |
97m17s06f |
79:59:74 |
Hi-Space 52X |
MPO 97m25s07f |
79:59:00 |
Memorex 52X |
CMC Magnetics 97m26s66f |
79:59:74 |
- Summary
The results with Taiyo Yuden media are very good for all the supported writing
speeds. The C1 error rate is low, and no C2 or CU errors were reported. The Memorex media had almost the same performance. With the other two media, SKC and Emtec, we tested we had low quality results especially with Emtec where the score was totally zero. In that case lot of C2 were reported.
11. DVD Recording Tests
Philips DVDR824P DVD+RW - Page 11
DVD Recording Tests
- Writing Performance
Philips DVDR824P supports
DVD+R/RW writing. The maximum supported speeds are 8X and 4x respectively.
We
used a 8x DVD+R disc by Mitsubishi Chemicals, in order to check the 8x writing strategy of
the drive. The software we used is Nero CDSpeed, and its "create disc" function.
Philips started writing at 5.34x and finished at 8.03x which confirm manufacturers specifications. As we mention in the first page of this test the behaviour of the drive as it illustrates in the following diagram is natural, confirming once again Philips strategy.
Below is a screenshot of CDspeed writing test with 4x DVD+RW discs by Ricoh
(4x CLV):
The 4x DVD+RW media has almost the same performanse with the previous test. The writing process began at 4x and the average speed was 3.88x.
- Burning Tests
We burned 4315MB of data on various DVD+R, DVD+RW media.
We used the maximum allowed writing speed for each disc. The best recording times are illustrated in the following table. For
comparison, we
also include
the
writing
times of
Optorite DD0203, Ricoh MP5240 and Plextor PX-708A:
As we can see with DVD+R media Philips and Plextor gave almost the same values, with Philips being slower for 7 sec. Because of the 8x writing speed of this drives it was logical to have half time than the other two , Ricoh and Optorite.. At the DVD+RW part the values again depends on the writing speed of the drives. Between the three drives that we can compare Ricoh was faster while Philips and Plextor had once again the same performance.
The following pictures come from Nero, after successful burnings with Verbatim
4x DVD+R, Taiyo Yuden 4x DVD+R, and Ricoh 4x DVD+RW media. The amount of data
is the same for all the tests.
-
Philips 8x DVD+R
(8x recording)
-
Verbatim 4x DVD+R (8x recording)
Philips selects the maximum allowed recording speed according to
the inserted blank DVD discs. In the following table you can see the maximum
permitted writing speeds with various
media.
Disc Label
|
Disc Information
|
Writing Speed
|
MCC 8x DVD+R |
Philips081 |
8x |
Verbatim 4x DVD+R |
MCC002 |
8x |
Ricoh 4x DVD+RW |
RICOHJPNW11
|
4x |
- DVD+RW Packet Writing
Philips DVDR824P supports packet writing with DVD+RW and DVD+RW media. To
test the performance in the DVD+RW format, we formatted some Ricoh 4x DVD+RW
discs
and started the drag'n drop process, using
an 412MB (412.822Kb)
file. With the background formatting in
full progress, we wrote down the reading / writing performance. The performance
of the drive is illustrated in the table below:
|
Duration
|
Average speed
|
Read
|
3:49 min
|
1.33x
|
Write
|
3:55 min
|
1.3x
|
Although the media we used support the higher available writing speeds for
each format, under packet writing the performance is lower than in the case
of normal writing. In case of DVD+RW, this can be explained by the fact that
the background formatting process was running in parallel with our tests.
- Mount Rainier
Philips DVR824P is currently not supporting DVD+MRW. According to Philips,
the implementation will be possibly added with a future firmware upgrade.
12. Writing Quality Tests - PI / PO Error Measurements
Philips DVDR824P DVD+RW - Page 12
KProbe PI/PO
quality results
In the following screenshots you can see the PI/PO scans for various 4x DVD+R
and DVD+RW media, recorded with Philips DVDR824P at the maximum allowed speed.
The software we used for the measurements is the KProbe v1.1.24, and the reader
is LiteOn LDW-401S. The specific methodology is very depended on the drive
we use as a reader, and the reliability of the PI/PO provided output is also
not
technically confirmed. As a result, we cannot safely come up with absolute
results,
but we are
allowed
to compare
the behavior
of
the
drive
with
various
DVD recordable/rewritable
media. The official specifications for DVD demand that the PI should be < 280/sec
(PI<<280/sec good quality) and the PO should be zero.
The recordable discs we used come from Hitachi-Maxell, Philips, Mitsubishi
Chemicals, Verbatim, Ritek and Hi-Space. More information about each disc type
is available in the bottom of the page.
- Mitshubishi Chemicals 8x DVD+R
- Verbatim 4x DVD+R (Recorded at 8x)
Media
|
Code
|
Philips 4x DVD+R
|
RICOHJPNR01
|
Mitshubishi Chemicals 8x DVD+R
|
Philips 081
|
Maxell 2.4x DVD+R
|
RICOHJPNR00
|
Verbatim 4x DVD+R
|
MCC002
|
Mitshubishi Chemicals 4x DVD+RW
|
MKMA02
|
Maxell 4x DVD+R
|
MAXELL 001
|
Hi-Space 4x DVD+R
|
MPOMEDIA 040
|
Ricoh 4x DVD+RW
|
RICOHJPNW11
|
13. Conclusion
Philips DVDR824P DVD+RW -
Page 13
Conclusion
Pros
|
Cons
|
- 8x DVD+R writing
- Features
Seamless Link & Dynamic Calibration technologies
- 4x DVD+RW writing
- Adequate
CD/DVD seek times
- Fast CD-R/RW/DVD-ROM/DVD±R/RW
reading
- Good CD
error correction capabilities
- Excellent
Sound Reproduction with defected audioCDs
- High DVD-Video
ripping speed
- Quality
reading with defected/scratched DVD-ROM/Video
- 40x max
DAE
- Supports ripping/playback Key2Audio protected discs
- Good CD-R writing quality
- Overburning up to 99min
- Supports CD-Text (reading/writing)
|
- Doesn't support Mount Rainier
- Cannot
create working backups of SafeDisk and SecuROM protected discs
- Performance
with Cactus Data Shield 200 discs could be better
- Increased jitter values at 24x
- High C2
error rate with specific media
|
The new DVDR824P recorder is definitely a good answer of Philips against the
competition of DVD writers in the market, offering the highest writing speeds
for DVD recording, and very good performance as a CD-RW drive as well.
The supported 8x DVD+R writing offers impressive recording times, almost the
same with Plextor PX-708A. Our 4.315GB DVD movie file was burned in only 8:00
minutes. The drive also burned the same files to a 4x DVD+RW disc in 14:09
minutes. Although the supported media list for 8x is currently very limited,
it is expected to be wider as soon as more media manufacturers support 8x recording.
The drive did not manage to achieve quality score with the ABEX TCD-721R test
disc but fortunately that didn't happened with Abex TCD-726 which was much
easier for the drive to read. The drive also had excellent performance with
our CD-Check Audio Test Disc, where it managed to read the 1.5mm defected area
without reporting any audible clicks.
The DVD error correction tests showed that Philips is capable of reading accurately
all the ABEX DVD-ROM discs (defected / scratched) by ALMEDIO, independently
of the defected areas dimensions.
Another important issue, however, is that the drive didn't manage to make
working backups of all the game protections we tested. The lack of DAO RAW
96 writing feature means that the drive cannot create working backups of protections
based on subchannel data such as the SecuROM. However the drive is able to
handle the protected Audio CDs. Key2Audio was not a problem for the drive but
it could be better with CDS200 where occurred many mutes and skip errors.
Although the supported 24/10/40 capabilities is not the fastest among the
compatible drives, the average writing times are quite low. The maximum DAE
speed is 40x.
The 3T jitter measurements were positive with an exception at 24x where the
jitter values were quiet increased. However the quality measurements (C1 C2)
were adequate with all the media we tested at 16x and 24x with an exception
with the SKC media, which gave back high C1 and C2 error rates.
The PI/PO measurements saw that the drive has good writing quality with all
the DVD media we tested. However with the Mitsubishi Chemicals 8x DVD+R media
the average PI and PO error rate was increased at the outer area of the disc
far beyond the acceptable level.
The Philips DVDR824P price is not currently available in the market, at least
under the Philips brand. The recent joint venture of Philips with BenQ gives
candidate users the chance to own the DVDR824P under the BenQ brand, with the
DW800 DVD writer. Priced at $150~190, it is an attractive solution for fast
DVD recording. In the meantime, NEC, Optorite, Pioneer and others (OEM) have
already announced 8x dual writers, so the following months are expected to
be really interesting.
Written and Edited by
Constantin Kioulafas, Tony Veglis